Week 10 Daily B: Autodromo Nazionale Monza GR.3

Nope sorry this race gets a 3 out of 10 for me. It's a high powered daily race A. I'm getting flash backs of Daytona and sardegna. Viper has far too much straight line speed. Honestly this game does a good job of giving the illusion of choice. Straight line speed in circuit racing isn't true speed. People love the car that makes up for there lack of ability to take a corner. 

I'm brand new to this and I can't even imagine how we're going to get through Turn-1 in D-lobby :-(( 

Hi, my advise, racing myself in D and C:

Start form the back (I usually do not do Qualification-Laps), let all the others sort themselves out in Chicane 1. Normally, when you get out of that, you are somewhere between 11 and 14.

Do the same with chicane 2.

After that, just follow you race. Avoid trouble, let the makers do their job in self-killing out of the race.

Works for me with race results normally somewhere in upper half of result-sheet up to Top-3

Thanks for the great advice. And you were 100% correct. I skipped qualifying, started 14th in my first two races, and finished 7th & 8th by just driving. 

DR B was no better in any of my races. Starting way behind or at the front will serve you well. Half of the pack will be sideways at that corner

You're right, that viper needs to be nerfed or removed. It is the same thing in Deep Forest, I hate that ugly car. It's so weird to drive in VR, so I don't even bother. It makes no sense how that car is faster than modern day cars, it's ridiculous. 

It is HORRIBLE in VR. That steering wheel!

I won't use an American car, failed car irl for being a shitbox too lmao

The hard tyres make it even worse, just make it mediums or softs if there is no tyre wear or strategy PD?

I agree how this race is so brutal. I just started sim racing (about 30 races in DR C/B and SR S) and i have started from the front at Monza and you get absolutely destroyed in the first chicane. People in these lobbies just dont care. You try to drive clean and leave space and someone literally just rams you from the back or the side. It's brutal, frustrating and annoying, and it's not just Monza. Just gotta try to get through this part of the journey I guess...It's like other drivers think you are out to get them or something just because you are passing them. Does it really get better in "B" and "A" lobbies? I need some guidence because it's very frustrating.

I only started racing online around October last year. Have progressed to high B DR and S SR since then on controller only (will progress to ful sim set up this year). This is the first time Monza has come up while I've been playing and I must say I that turn 1 could possibly be the most unique I have seen so far. We all know it's tricky but I think actual application is far different than anything else I've played. In race, first lap, the cold tyre model is vastly different to the cold or warm tyre model in time trial, and I think many people struggle with this initially. Also, lap two onwards, coming off the long straight and mega drafting makes the braking considerably different than anything in TT. I got caught a few times with this and unintentionally sent a few people off track. All this to say, even in high B / low A lobbies there is likely a skill issue associated with T1, not necessarily a problem with sportsmanship. As the week has progressed for me, I have seen much better conduct through this corner. I think a lot of people mean well at T1, they just haven't been prepared for it. 

Yeah fair enough I get that, and I appreciate the input. I just sort of had enough and started doing daily race C instead and had more positive results for sure. Still alot of fun though! 

I was racing in the A lobby this week and lost all my points due to “incidents.” In A lobby I usually start somewhere in the midfield. After that I dropped down to the B lobby and started on the front row, but the same saga continued, more dirty “incidents.”

Does it get better? Yes and no. Some races are definitely structured better. However, this particular race is pretty bad because the Viper has unreal straight-line speed. I can be half a second ahead, and someone in a Viper will still catch up to me right before the first turn. It’s ridiculous.

They get the illusion that they’re faster because of the straight-line speed, but then they take forever to get through the first corner and end up slowing everyone else down with their nonsense.

Being super-duper brand new (i've been racing the dailys for 3 whole weeks, and I'm new to sim racing as well) I expect to be stuck in the D lobby for a quite a while.  So i'm trying to find something to learn out of every race, even if that "something" this week is where to put my car so I can avoid as many of the collisions as possible, but even that has been a hilarious fail.

Originally having skipped qualifying, I started one race in 15th. The driver in 16th still managed to rear-end me at full speed, thus we took out more than half the grid as they were turning into T1. As furious as I was, I tried to laugh it off and then the game became how many places can I climb despite the absolute horrific start. I love the C-race but I feel like I'm learning traffic navigation better in the B-race.  

Interesting to see new drivers perspectives as well like mine. Honestly though I think the game is still rewarding, and it rewards being fast. In daily race C this week it started of so so for me for a few races, when I started farther back in the field, so I really focused on the quali lap. Got it down to 2.22.0 and started on pole and won from pole. Basically just have to put in the time and become faster. Once I get into b lobbies I'm interested in seeing if things are a bit different. 

I think the game does a fairly good job of matchmaking based on your skills, yes its not perfect and there is always risk because not everyone is going to behave and drive perfectly. It's definitely the most fun I've had in a long time. 😀

Also have to shout out to the main streamers and you tubers who do videos about how to drive the tracks, these are a huge help when starting out! 

I'm literally surviving because of those videos 🤣 Luc, Digit, Kizzi and Rory are my heros hahaha

Every time I drive... "do not engage a group of cars". 

I'm going to double down.This is the worse race ever. What is DR and SR? Like really, I get penalized for other peoples dirty driving, it is such BS. 
THE VIPER HAS TO GO!

I fell into the trap (being fairly new with GT7 Sports mode), and I regret doing this race several times.

Indeed, there really is no choice to what car to take. It's a bit infuriating that although I take my corners better than some others, they still pass me by easily or get further away, just because they drive a Viper, WRX or whatelse, while I'm driving the Porsche '22. I'm not that experienced with Gr 3 cars, so I tend to stick with the one I'm familiar with.

This race almost decreased my DR from C to D. So I'm not taking any risks anymore. I get screwed in the first corner. And get penalized for other drivers mistakes. And a lot of drivers that try to take the corner while you're already taking them, and just run you over. And don't get penalized for it.

I don't mind losing from my own mistakes, but not because of others bad driving or intentional agressive take-overs. It's hard to stay sportmanship-like with such drivers.

2:22:0 : Sure you're talking about Monza? My qualify time was 1:52:something and fast drivers were between 1:48 and 1:51.

I do enjoyed it still and also follow drivers like Luc Nodaro, Kizzi, Digit, Hogston, Snake, and such. With only a few weeks under my belt, I still have lots to go through (really need to learn manual shifting, as it seems a skill where I can gain extra speed).
Luc's 4 rules are great, but not always applicable in the shorter races (like this Monza was), where there are a lot of agressive drivers.

No not monza, I was referring to daily race c, St Croix